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Tuesday, November 05, 2002
 
Guess What...........................
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JIHAD!!!!

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Guess What...........................
ASSALAMUALAIKUM

I just bought a 21 inch flat screen CRT with a sony triniton tube

YIPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!


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- November 4th, 2002 - 03:32 AM



ghazi
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Asalamulaikum,

Are you going to watch The Message DVD or Empire of Faith DVD to kick it off?


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- November 5th, 2002 - 12:22 AM



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I just got a pre ban AR15 and 800 rounds.
I bet we spent the same amount of money.



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- November 5th, 2002 - 12:47 AM
Monday, November 04, 2002
 
aleem
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Did sheikh Ibn Baaz give a fatwa allowing US troops to be present in Saudi Arabia
I have heard from some sisters from the salaf that sheikh ibn baaz gave a fatwa allowing US troops to be present in the kingdom. They tried to justify this fatwa as being correct but I disageed with them. Can anyone tell me if the sheikh really did give such a fatwa.



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10-05-2002 06:06 PM



SasJamal
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Yes he did, but not like many people claim that he holds it to be permissable unrestrictedly.

First of All, he was decieved by the Government. They told him a few number would be there, and that they would leave immediately.

Secondly, the Government told him that it was Needed and Vital for the Protection of the State itself (i.e many lives would be killed, if the kuffar did not protect KSA)

So, his opinion was based on the fact, that in times of necessity can we seek the Help of the Kuffar, or can we do the Lesser of 2 Evils (letting the Kuffar in was Evil, but losing the lives of many people was more Evil) (even though it is still Haram) Like sometimes we are permitted to do what is Haram to protect something which has a bigger Benefit in Islaam.

So he based his opinion on this, the fact he felt it would be a greater evil for Saddam Hussein to Attack KSA, since the KSA was not able to defned itself proerly.

The Fatwa was still in correct, most if not all of the other Scholars condemmed the Fatwa (those who openly claim to be Salafi, as well as those who do not) such as Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen, Sheikh Al Albani, and others like them.

Note, that we should excuse him due to the fact, that he was decieved by the KSA Government, may Allah give them what they deserve, and that he wrote a letter of apology for this later, and his last words, were "Kick the Kuffar Out."

All people make Mistakes, and the Scholars no doubt make them as well.

Of course from an Academic Stand Point, one can see his Opinion and one who is grounded in Fiqh, etc. Can probably defend his opinion, as you can defend almost any weak opinion if you want. So there are probably some who defend his opinion, (which I would not be so hasty to crtiticize, unless your on the same level of Islamic Scholarship he was).


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10-05-2002 06:49 PM



caller2islam
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May Allah bless Allamah Bin Baz (rh) who revived the Salafi Dawah in our time.

Brother SAS Jamal has pretty much summed it all up. Shaikh Bin Baz gave his Ijithad after tedious evidence was provided to him. Many ulema and Students of knowledge advised him not give the fatwa by quoting the two hadiths of Rasul (saw): "No two religion can exist in the holy lands" and "Expel the Jews and Christians from the Peninsula".

Anyway, may Allah reward him for all the good he done. Ameen.


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10-05-2002 07:10 PM



aleem
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Did the sheikh give any fatwa on jihad? If so, what are they. Ty.



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10-06-2002 02:58 PM



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He gave one on Kashmir, I remember. I can't find it anymore though. It used to be on http://jihaadulkufaarin.jeeran.com


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10-07-2002 02:57 AM



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As Salaamu Alaikum

There is a documentary called ""Secret Wars of Desert Storm" (or something similar) that details the deception of the KSA gov. by the U.S. Apparently, there were never any Iraqi troops near the Saudi border. So there's another layer to the deception.

This documentary also explains the health effects of the depleted uranium munitions that have been dropped all over Iraq and now Afghanistan. The longterm effects of these weapons is similar to the dreaded biological/chemical weapons of other illegally unelected thug regimes outside the U.S. So there's another layer to the hypocrisy.

Musa


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10-07-2002 05:45 AM



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Hidden war, I think it is called, but I have not seen it.

Anyway, I respect Shaykh Ibn Baz (RH), but I don't agree with taking the word of someone like Fahd, (a fasiq at the very least) and basing a fatwa on his version of the events.

Even if he was lied to, as we heard aswell, why was there no retraction of this fatwa made publically?

I hear the words of Shaykh Usamah on "The State Of The Ummah Video"
"The wounds of the Muslims are open everywhere...The Jewish and Christian women soliders are in our Holy cities, and they play and enjoy on the land where our Prophet (SAW) was born, and in the land that Jibreel (AS) gave the revelation to the Prophet (SAW). This important land is the most beloved of all to Allah...."

Reflect upon Surah Balad, when Allah says
"laa uqsimu bi haathal balad"
I swear by this city


And the najjis kuffar junood can fornicate in this sacred land, but our Mujaahideen are tortured in that country, and even raped!

What kind of a "Muslim" ruler is this, to have a prison with a Yahood warden, electrocuting our brothers in Islam, and he sat there and wore a cross!

I would like to drive it through his heart!!!

I make bara' of this fatwa, of this taghoot ruler, and of those who support his regime by calling him the "Ameer-ul-Mu'mineen"

If anyone has the fatwa in full in Arabic and English, pls post it here.

wa-salaam,
UmmKhubayb.


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10-07-2002 06:18 PM



hafeez101
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AA All,

Yes Sister Ummkhubayb has an important point, Many ppl say that shaykh Bin Baz was coerced/tricked/etc/.. Yet did he realise that he had been duped and more importantly did he take it back?? Allah knows best and i Hope for his welfare in the hereafter that he did recant.

Otherwise i ask the ppl here what is the verdict on the muslim who allies with the Kuffar to kill muslims...what is the verdict on those who enforce sanctions killing hundreds of thousands of the young of Iraq..why is the life of a muslim in saudi worth more then the life of a muslim in Iraq ??

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10-07-2002 09:30 PM



SasJamal
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The Question you should ask is What is the Verdict on the Muslim who seeks the help of the Kuffar to Protect his own life, and the lives of his family, etc. tribe, etc.


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10-07-2002 10:11 PM



aleem
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It seems to me as if the scholars that are residing in Saudia Arabia & are giving fatwas are under pressure from the saudi government to give fatwas that can help them in their political agenda or do not go against their hypocritical ways. That is why the genuine scholars either leave saudia arabia or end up in jail. This is also why many people call the scholars of the kingdom the weapons of the saudi government. In my opinion it is best to verify fatwas given by the scholars in the kingdom with respected scholars in Pakistan and other countries. Best of all, get the opinion of a mujahid scholar i.e. scholars that are doing jihad.



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10-07-2002 11:37 PM



SasJamal
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Many Scholars have refuted his Fatwa.

Sheikh Muqbil,
Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen,
Sheikh Al Albanee,

and a ton of others I am sure.


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10-07-2002 11:38 PM
 
Russians to bury Chechen terrorists in pig's skin

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Russians to bury Chechen terrorists in pig's skin
Russians to bury Chechen terrorists in pig's skin


Chechen Terrorists to be Buried in Pigskin

According to the Moskovski Komsomol newspaper, Russian security forces have decided to bury the terrorists from last's week's hostage siege wrapped in pig's skin. The aim is to deter potential Islamic terrorists from future attacks.

Shahidi (Jihad martyrs) believe by their nefarious acts that they ascend immediately to heaven. Using their beliefs against them, wrapping their corpses in 'unclean' pigskin prevents them from entering heaven for eternity


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11-04-2002 07:30 AM



Abdraheim
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Assalam alaikum

Man these Russians are Sad....and even sadder if they think they will deter any more Muslims from taking up Arms against these oppressors by such pathetic actions. the only thing that will delay a Shaheeds entrence to Jannah is a dain(debt) he/she had in the Dunya and Allah is the Most Just and Most Merciful





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11-04-2002 08:21 AM



IbnMardhiyah
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Kat that information is a rumor.

Russians have no use for such actions anyways.


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11-04-2002 02:14 PM



Kat
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This i pray is a rumor,there are many like this at paranoidtruth.They have talked evil about Islam at this place.
I asked there if this was a rumor and to see the link.They cursed and posted more about the evil of islam.
Some people are evil in their hearts.


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11-04-2002 02:22 PM



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May Allah(Swt) grant victory to the mujahideen in Chechnya. Ameen.

The Russian kuffar didnt learn their lesson in Afghanistan, and now are inshallah paying the price in Chechnya.

Do the Russians think it will affect the martyrs if their bodies are buried in pig skins? These are the most blessed of people, and let the Russian now that it is the dream of every muslim to attain martyrdoom. For every shaheed they bury in pig skins there will be one hundred more muslims inshallah to take their places. These actions only strengthen the resolve of the muslimeen.

Ya Allah(swt) open the hearts of the Russian soldiers in Chechnya to accept islam.

Ya Allah(swt) help the mujahideen rid the muslim lands of dogs like the Russian kuffar.

Ya Allah(swt) blind the russian soldiers, and help the missiles of the mujahideen to strike them and strike fear into the heart of the filthy russian kuffar.

Ameen.



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11-05-2002 01:06 AM

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