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Three Moroccans Planned Saudi Suicide Plane Attack
Three Moroccans Planned Saudi Suicide Plane Attack
Wed May 21, 2003 09:40 AM ET

JEDDAH (Reuters) - Three Moroccans arrested in Saudi Arabia earlier this week in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah planned to hijack a civilian airliner in the kingdom, a Saudi security source said Wednesday.
"They were planning a suicide hijack to attack Saudi landmarks," the source told Reuters, adding they were arrested at Jeddah airport Monday.

Saudi authorities said Tuesday they had arrested three suspected members of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network in Jeddah. It was not clear if the arrests were linked to last week's triple suicide bombings of Western residential compounds in the capital Riyadh, which killed at least 34 people.

"They were thwarted by Saudi forces who had no help from outside," the security source added. The FBI is helping Saudi Arabia investigate last week's bombings.


http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle...storyID=2785611


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05-21-2003 05:35 PM



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it is a lie fabricated by saudi government in order to hurt alqaeda's popularity amongst the saudi masses


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Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heraclius will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' [Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1]
History is a witness that Constantinople or Istanbul was conquered by Sultan Mehmet al Fatih al Uthmani. However Rome was never captured. This will happen in the near future when once again Muslims will have prestige and glory.



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05-21-2003 08:38 PM



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if you read the excrepts of bin laden's last audio you will find him clearly stating that he has no wish whatsoever to bring pain,destruction and injury to fellow muslims. According to saudi authorities that plane was bound to Khartoum. If the above report is true then why are the Saudi authorities declining to name the airline in which the alleged hijacking was attempted.


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Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heraclius will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' [Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Also, see As-Silsilah as-Sahihah, vol. 1]
History is a witness that Constantinople or Istanbul was conquered by Sultan Mehmet al Fatih al Uthmani. However Rome was never captured. This will happen in the near future when once again Muslims will have prestige and glory.



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05-21-2003 08:41 PM



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If the captured were Saudi I might have believed it.

However, when the Saudis want to fit someone up they always pick foreigners. Easy pick three Moroccans, and say they are terrorists. Show the USA your a good slave to them.

These Moroccans will be tortured, raped and then have a trial with no defense. When they are found guilty (note no if) they will be executed, and Clown Prince Abdullah can have a pat on the back from Mr Bush, along with a few extra treats I expect.


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05-21-2003 08:55 PM
 
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Sorry for posting this but any suggestions???
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I hope all of you are in best of health and strong eman.


I am really sorry to be posting such a question may Allah forgive me for this but i just wanted to see the opinion of you brothers in regards to this. I would like to ask all of you who comment about this issue that you stay with the topic and not let it get out of hand.

The Question is this: I personaly would like to marry 2 times or maybe 3 times any suggestions as to how i go about it, for example do i need the permission of the first wife in order to marry again or there is no such condition.

I am sure some of you will say worry about the first one well i would like to say i believe the first one can be taken care of i need to find out how I would approach towards getting number 2 etc...

I thank you all for the opinions (lets keep it within bounds).


Death to kufar, munafiqs, murtads etc... Victory to mumins, mujahids etc...



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05-14-2003 02:25 AM



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you can marry up to four

you go to their walis, speak to them, and if you pass, you get the wife

i aint no scholar, but from all of my readings, you do not need the permission of the first wife (you probably wont get it anyway) but that doesnt excuse sneaky behaviour

the best thing is to make sure the first wife doesnt think she is going to be your only wife, that will make the rest easy

you go boy!!!!!!!!!1


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05-14-2003 02:44 AM



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Originally posted by Raafi
the best thing is to make sure the first wife doesnt think she is going to be your only wife, that will make the rest easy



how do u do that?


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05-14-2003 02:55 AM



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sister, i would like to marry you, and i have no problems with the practice of polygyny

if she walks, better now than after you have a kid with her


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05-14-2003 03:09 AM



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i read that you have to be equal with each wife and i think you might have to ask your 1st wife for permission. anyway i think few men today can be equal to all their wives especially if one is hotter than the other. I think the prophet (SAW) in the Sahabi were sincere men. but u really have to look inside yourself. I mean anyone can say 'yea ima be equal to all my chikz' but really in your heart. Allah knows best


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05-14-2003 04:17 AM



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Im assuming your not married, so i would say exactly what akhuk al kabeer Rafi has said, make it clear from the start insha'allah, get everything exposed while your at those "every couple day family meetings" when both families get together. Let her know your intentions of having more than one wife, one good tip i got when i was looking for a wife was to tell her strait out " What is halaal in the religion, this is what we will go by, and what is haraam we will avoid, like it or not?" she has to agree insha'allah.

but even if you are married and decide to marry another later,
be the man of the house akhi, she is your wife and must accept what the religion considers halal. tell her that you are looking, and ask her to help even if she is willing. noone here will know your wife more than you.


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05-14-2003 04:36 AM



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i have a question. if you have more than 1 wife lets say 4. can u umm have sex with all of em at the same time??


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05-14-2003 04:38 AM



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Akhi, you will have a deeper love for one more than the other. With issues of equality, then this refers to the material side of the marrige, with food and clothing etc, as for emotional, than Allah (az) has pardoned man knowing his heart will without a doubt lean more to liking one over the other


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05-14-2003 04:46 AM



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no alsaif, we are not porn stars


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05-14-2003 05:04 AM



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Shukran Jazeelan
Bismillah


I hope all of you are in best of health and strong eman.


I thank you all for the advice may Allah be pleased with you all. I have no problem being straight forward about anything as a matter of fact my straight forwardness has gotten me in alot of trouble with people. These days women usualy come up with the idea of what does she have (meaning the second one) that i don't have when you are thinking about another marriage, no matter how much i explain to the family that my objective really is that i want to get married to have lots of kids and i want to raise them to be Mujahids that is my number one goal. My other goal is that if i want to be a protector for a girl/woman whom if left alone especially in the corrupt society she might committ some act that is not right ( i am not saying men are immune from that) rahter in that case it is better for me to marry more then once because i will at least have the oppertunity to save some potential tragedy is some peoples life instead of just hearing about it and say oh well if she had done so and so. Especially in the western society i think for those brothers who are capable of marring more than once they should take advantage of it because there are alot of sisters who are vunrable and we can be their right ful protector in terms of marriage and give them the family they need instead of them going and finding it the wrong way.


may Allah help us all ameen.

Death to kufar, munafiqs, murtads etc... victory to mumins, mujahids etc..



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05-14-2003 05:19 AM



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Of course not akhi alsaif, subhanallah.

Some are on the opinion that another wife should not see the awra of her husbands wife in order to avoid jealousy if one is more beautiful.

even the most pious of women like A'shia (ra) would have gheera against the other wives of the Prophet alayhis salaam.


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05-14-2003 05:32 AM



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Your Intentions: State them
Assalammu Alaikum,

First let me say having more than 1 wife isn't what we all dream of. It is a large amount of work that the majority of us will not be able to handle. And if you can then alhamdulillah.

As for trying to marry more than one wife, trying to make sure your first wife doesn't kill you over it, state your intentions. Women are jelious and this cannot be stopped, but if you state your intentions and she understands her position then everyhting will be okay, inshallah. However, you do not need the permission of the first wife to marry the second, but the scholars recommend consulting her as to have no hardfeelings or resentment. If you truely marry a righteous women, then she will know what the purpose of marriage is and understand it. She would be able to understand that one of the reasons for marriage is to populate this world, and unless she wants a child every year she will not be sufficient for what you desire.

For sure you will meet some resistance, but if the first wife knows her position as a wife and your position as a husband she will listen to you, inshallah. If you are sincere then Allah will assist you and make it easy upon you.


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05-14-2003 07:44 AM



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akhi alsaif i ask you to be a little more modest in the way you ask your questions as Haya is the branch of faith.
Akhi Taliban
If you want to marry more than 1 wife thats great akhi. There are a lot of info on CG already about it. just search for polygamy or polygyny in the built in search.
Make sure that you ask only very pious Muslimah's as most arn't open the the idea only the one's that fear Allah.
Even a lot know that there are a lot of brothers these days that only want to take one wife so they will usually want to marry these brothers rather than the one that wants to marry four and actually has that intention. So this may affect whether you tell your first wife right away. You do not have to tell her that you are re-marrying but it is probably better that you do. I don't know of a situation where one of RasoolAllah's SAW wives didn't know of another. But make sure you treat them equally with action and wordly things to keep the jealousy at a minimum and know that it will be tough.
InshALlah make a lot of dua.



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05-14-2003 07:50 AM



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I thank all of you
Bismillah


I hope all of you are in best of health and strong eman.

I thank all of you for the great advice may Allah reward you all ameen.


To the best of my ability i will try to be equal because i believe i can do it. If i did not believe that i was not capable of marrying more than once i would not have even thought about it. But Alhamdulillah as you brothers say find a muslimah who is ok with me marrying more than once and make it clear as to what my intentions are.

There is no reason to hide anything and i do believe that i will do my part in informing my first wife about all my intentions now the problem is that she will make a big deal out of it as well as the family so i need a strategy to make it clear to both of them what i intend to do.

Anyhow I thank you all for the advice.



Death to kufar, munafiqs, murtads etc... victory to mumins, mujahids etc...



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05-15-2003 09:34 PM



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the best thing is to make sure the first wife doesnt think she is going to be your only wife, that will make the rest easy


Shaykhi Taaliban,

Tell you something, lots of sisters will ask you first, paranoid or what I don't know, "will you marry another one after me".

Don't ever say "no", say something to this degree: "Well, if you behave properly and do as I want you to do, why would I want to marry another one" and if she insists on a "yes" or "no" answer, you do two things: you learn that she's too paranoid and scared and has a phobia or something (which plenty of women do), and respond with "well, are you paranoid or something or scared".

But best of all, do your sneaky thing and don't tell her about it, or her close-friends. What goes round, comes round.

Best of luck dude. *smile*

Also, one of the best benefits of marrying more than one is that you'll never get bored of her - check the threads on "polygamy" - on CG, lots of arguments from the bro's there on why marrying more than one is a very good idea.

Go for it all of you.


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Imaam Muhammed bin 'Abdulwahaab said: "Verily those tawagheet, whom people believe, that it is obligatory to obey besides Allah - they are all kufaar apostates from Islaam.

"How can you say no?! When they make halaal what Allah made haraam, and made haraam what Allah has made halaal, and they seek to corrupt the land with their words, and actions and support? And whoever argues for them, or is critical of the one who does takfeer of them, or claims that this act of theirs - although wrong - still doesn't take them out of Islaam to kufr, then the least that one can say of this arguer is that he is a faasiq, because the deen of Islaam cannot be upright except with by seeking innocence from those people, and doing takfeer of them". - ar-Rasaa`il ash-Shakhsiyyah, page 188.

Jihaad was recalled in the precence of Imaam Ahmad, so he wept and said: "There is no act of piety better than it".

May Allah have mercy upon Imaam Ahl as-Sunnah, Ahmad bin Hanbal whom it was narrated said: "If you see people differing, then look for the people of thughoor (the frontlines), and see what they are upon. As Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, says: "And those who did Jihaad in Our way, then we will guide them to Our Path".

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05-15-2003 10:41 PM
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Israeel, hit again! Allahu akbar!
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Israeel, hit again! Allahu akbar!
Israel hit by martyrdom operations

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The bomber was said to have been disguised as a religious Jew
A suicide bomber has killed at least seven people and injured about 20 in an attack on a bus in Jerusalem.

The attack - at the beginning of the Israeli working week - came just hours after the highest level talks between Israeli and Palestinian leaders in more than two years.

A second suicide bomber blew himself up as emergency crews arrived at the scene of the blast in the north of the city - but failed to cause any more casualties...


Yeah right...subhanAllah..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/3037285.stm


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05-18-2003 03:01 PM



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ALLAHUAKBAR.....finally....It was a long wait but alhamdulillah.
This news has indeed brought some ease to my heart.


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05-18-2003 04:02 PM



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Na'am subhanAllah...a really long wait...but alhamdulillah...and these mujahideen are really smart, eh? MashaAllah...

Disguised as a religious Jew...funny...


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05-18-2003 05:23 PM



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ALLAHU AKBAR Allhumdulilah they are back again


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05-18-2003 06:28 PM



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What i dont get is how they only kill a few people. Seven? It was a small bus. There should have been more deaths. Inshallah next time there will be.

Salaam.


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