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Thursday, December 25, 2003
 
The Future of Warfare: Hell on Earth?


12-20-2003, 04:06 AM
The Future of Warfare: Hell on Earth?
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Protocol 7
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Salaams. I had heard about this weapons weeks ago from CNN, but today on National Public Radio they interviewed the Israeli inventor of the gun that can shoot at right angles. It got me thinking...

With so much advancement in weaponry, and continued build-up of the US and Israeli militaries, what does the future of warfare hold? What happens if the US (hypocritically) develops mini-nukes? What if some day there was a "nuclear suicide bomber"?

How much power is enough power? Will all this advanced weaponry ever be used? When will the US and Israel be satisfied with their militaries, and what will the implications be for Muslims?

These are some thoughts I'm having. Not to complain, but I have to admit that I'm worried about Muslims' weak position, and lack of education and development. At least in the old days there was more man-to-man combat, where skill was more of a factor.

Now, in the future, I could picture the US or Israel sending a remote-controlled plane (without a human pilot) over Muslim areas to bomb them. Sorry, but I'm kind of pessimistic about the Muslim position in the future of warfare.
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12-20-2003, 04:16 AM
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ismiyy
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Technology doesnt win wars.

When 2 armies meet, and one army is made up of muwahhidoon fighting to raise Allaah's Word, and the other is a disbelieving army...

Who has the hosts from Allaah amongst their ranks?
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12-20-2003, 04:16 AM
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“How often a small
group overcame a mighty group by Allah’s leave? And Allah is with the
patient.” [Quran 2:249]
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12-20-2003, 04:22 AM
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Surah 19

73. And when Our Clear Verses are recited to them, those who disbelieve (the rich and strong among the pagans of Quraish who live a life of luxury) say to those who believe (the weak, poor companions of Prophet Muhammad SAW who have a hard life): "Which of the two groups (i.e. believers and disbelievers) is best in (point of) position and as regards station (place of council for consultation)."

74. And how many a generation (past nations) have We destroyed before them, who were better in wealth, goods and outward appearance?

75. Say (O Muhammad SAW) whoever is in error, the Most Beneficent (Allah) will extend (the rope) to him, until, when they see that which they were promised, either the torment or the Hour, they will come to know who is worst in position, and who is weaker in forces.
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12-20-2003, 05:33 AM
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a little something to note about warfare:
you have:
numbers
weaponry
moral
but most importantly...DEVOTION AND COURAGE
we got it, they dont
'i bring to you people who love death as much as you love life'
these kufar dont have that
and just a lil something to note, if one looks at the history of islamic battles, one would note that the kufar have had better weaponry and after we've defeated them, we've taken it from them as war booty...

SO, i say, go on, advance your weaponry, it will end up in our hands insha'ALLAH anyways. Afterall, im sure you guys have seen the taliban video that came out earlier this year where they are using night vision which is taken from american soldiers...and at the start of the afghan soviet war, hardly any automatic or semi automatic weaponry existed in afghanistan, it was only through killing thousands of russian soldiers and capturing their AK 47 that now all of afghan fighters carry AKs...and last: the scud missiles were brought into afghanistan by the soviets and the mujahideen up north (masood) feared how strong they were, but after kicking their butt, they captured them and now they say at least 10-15 scud missiles are hidden in the panjsheer valley under N.A control, just last week the N.A warlord Fahim surrendered 2 of them as a part of his role in the weapon handover going on...
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12-20-2003, 06:24 AM
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Good lord I'm going ta PUKE.

Anyone who thinks Muslims are being left behind needs to do their research. There is NO weapon on the face of thie Earth that the kuffar have that the Muslims dont have or that Muslims dont have an answer to.

Thats my challenge.

Anyone who doubts it, Bring It On.
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"Good lord I'm going ta PUKE."

Need a bucket, dude?

"Anyone who thinks Muslims are being left behind needs to do their research. There is NO weapon on the face of thie Earth that the kuffar have that the Muslims dont have or that Muslims dont have an answer to."

Of course I hope you're right, but what about US Stealth Fighter Jets, and US satellite spy capability? What about America's 21,700 lb. bomb called the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB)??? I heard some science guy on the radio talking about the US putting weapons in space. That seems unimaginable. And what about this laser cannon that the US and Israel developed (see link below)?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/10/29/laser.cannon.ap/index.html
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protocol 7...

i have one answer...ALLAH!

what happened when the elephants were coming to destroy the kaba...surah al-fil...the brids came and destroyed them all...

and what happened in badr? when the muslims some say only had 9 swords and the kufar 3 time more men fully equipped with weapons and armour...did not the muslims totally innhialate them?

victory is from ALLAH and so is defeat, at the very least know that Islam has been promised success and it will happen anyway ALLAH wills it to happen...
let us hope ALLAH uses us as the weapons to destroy these disbelievers and supporters of shaytan.

one cannot destroy what one cannot see...
'and we sent them unseen help'

ALLAH is muqqdim and muakhir...success and glory is in HIS control...

-soldier of ALLAH
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Now, in the future, I could picture the US or Israel sending a remote-controlled plane (without a human pilot) over Muslim areas to bomb them. - Protocol 7

This has already happened.
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Yesterday, 03:09 AM
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US drones take combat role

By Keith Somerville
BBC News Online
The killing of six suspected members of the al-Qaeda network by America's Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in Yemen on Monday has drawn attention again to the US ability to use hi-tech weapons to attack its enemies.

The six were killed when their car was hit by a missile fired by a CIA unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) or drone, according to unnamed sources.



The BBC's Defence Correspondent, Jonathan Marcus, says that the CIA has been using Predator drones armed with anti-tank missiles in Afghanistan.

It is likely that this was the sort of drone used in the Yemen attack. It could have been launched by US forces in Djibouti, across the Red Sea from Yemen.



On 25 October, the US Defense Department admitted for the first time that it was using armed drones to attack targets which threatened US and British air patrols over southern Iraq.

In the past, drones have been used as a cheap form of aerial reconnaissance which avoided endangering pilots' lives

The chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard Myers, said the advantage of using Predator drones in combat was that they could remain in the air for long periods and then respond immediately if they spot hostile targets.

New role in Afghanistan

The use of unmanned aircraft carrying cameras or sensors to gather intelligence started in the 1950s and has developed steadily since then.

Initially, they had a limited range, could only stay in the air for short periods and were prone to communications and control problems. Today, according to Jonathan Marcus, the American Global Hawk UAV can loiter over the battlefield for up to 24 hours at altitudes greater than 60,000 feet (18.3 km), providing real-time intelligence to commanders who may be far away from the scene of the engagement.



But the war against al-Qaeda and the Taleban led to drones being specially adapted to carry weapons - notably Hellfire anti-armour missiles.

Reports from Afghanistan said that drones had been able to locate key al-Qaeda or Taleban leaders, but ground or air attack units had then been unable to follow up with successful combat missions.

Henceforth the capability to attack targets was identified as a valuable addition to the drone's usefulness.

The adapted drones were used in Afghanistan and now in Iraq and, it is presumed, in the attack against al-Qaeda suspects in Yemen.

Widely used intelligence tool

The United States is far from being the only country to use drones.

Israel is a major producer and user of military drones, using them for reconnaissance of its borders and to gather military intelligence about its Arab neighbours' military capabilities.

In June, Pakistan shot down a drone being used by the Indian military along their border. It is believed that Israel had sold India Hunter and Searcher drones in the late 1990s.

Those UAVs are like very large model aircraft and carry cameras and sensors rather than weapons.

Two years ago, the Iraqi news agency reported that the country's air defences had shot down an Iranian drone which had intruded into its air space.



Key weapon against Iraq

The US used drones in the Balkans in 1999 and lost at least one of them due either to hostile fire or control problems resulting from a build up of ice on their wings.



Afghanistan was the first conflict in which drones are known to have been used as weapons platforms.

Now they are being used against al-Qaeda and their use is likely to expand in the future because of their flexibility and because they do not directly put US personnel at risk in attacks on targets. It is thought that after the extensive bombing campaign there, the US has been building up its stockpile of UAVs ahead of any conflict with Iraq, where the drones could play a major role as part of the US arsenal of so-called smart weapons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2404425.stm

Click on the above to see an image of a drone.
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what will they do when a storm gathers over the battlefield and a fog that makes them blind? where is there weaponry now? where is the high tech weaponry?
they are limited, but our du'as during the battle are answered before our hands come down...

ALLAH never leaves or forsakes HIS slaves...do you not think that HE has a plan that is far greater than theirs?

they though bombing afghanistan and iraq was a victory for them...yet how many ppl have realised their duty to their deen and how many have attained martyrdom? how many have joined their loved ones in the heavens? and how many have the burning desire to also attain martyrdom and join their loved ones...

they plan and ALLAH plans, ALLAH is the best of planners...

all these weapons talks is cheap man... they bomb..ok... Islam grows stronger for every blood of a mujahid that falls...
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Tuesday, December 23, 2003
 
Muslims Attack Minister [merged]


Yesterday, 04:00 PM

Muslims Attack Minister
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MUSLIMS ATTACK MINISTER

Egypt's Foreign Minister has been beaten unconscious by Muslims while visiting the al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.
Witnesses told the Reuters news agency Ahmed Maher was attacked by Palestinians while praying in the holy site.



A report by Associated Press said Muslims threw shoes at the minister.

He was surrounded by bodyguards and then shouted "I'm choking, I'm choking," as he was taken away, the agency reported.

He is reported to have regained consciousness after being taken to hospital and is in a good condition.

Maher was in the country to hold negotiations with Israeli leaders about resuming talks with the Palestinians.

Source: Sky News
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hahaha
Allahu
Akbar
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Yesterday, 04:33 PM
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lol - this is great to read first thing in the morning. nice job!
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Yesterday, 04:42 PM
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I was watching the news when he was being dragged out. Walaaahi he looked like a pig being dragged to the slaughterhouse.

It was hilarious.
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MishMish = Apricots...
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Yesterday, 04:52 PM
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is the video online anywhere?
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Yesterday, 05:07 PM
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help me!
koynici has attached this image:



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Yesterday, 05:22 PM
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yep ! Thats the one
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Yesterday, 06:35 PM

Egyptian Foreign Minister {Ahmed Maher Laanatu Allahe alayhe} Attacked at Al Aqsa
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast...ptian.attacked/

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Muslim worshippers attacked Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher Monday as he tried to worship at the Al Aqsa mosque, one of Islam's most sacred shrines.

Officials said dozens of worshippers inside the mosque, said to be members of a small extremist Islamic group called the Liberation Party, threw shoes at him -- an Arab sign of disrespect -- and shouted "Allah u Akbar" (God is great).

A spokesman for the Jerusalem police said officers stationed outside the mosque heard the commotion, and the foreign minister's entourage hurriedly escorted the disheveled Maher out.

http://www.terra.net.lb/wp/Articles...815&ChannelId=4

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/m...east/index.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2003Dec22.html

http://www.katv.com/news/stories/1203/114767.html

http://www.wpxi.com/news/2720712/detail.html

http://www.kfwb.com/news_internatio...5D-6A495DC423AD}
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Yesterday, 07:04 PM
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This cracked me up.
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Today, 02:02 PM
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He really looks like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family.
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stupid kaffir pigs


Yesterday, 06:36 PM
stupid kaffir pigs
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look what these stupid dirty fools have done to our masjids in Iraq..
may Allaah cause them to die intensely painful and humiliating deaths



the caption says:A mosque in Baghdad decorated by U.S. troops.


how sick

the source: http://www.theonion.com/3949/top_story.html
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Yesterday, 06:50 PM
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subhanAllah .....they come into a muslim land and put santa and his elfs on the masjids wot an insult..

Above: U.S. soldiers instruct an Iraqi to tell Santa what he wants for Christmas.
authabillahi minash shaytan nirajeem...
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Yesterday, 06:56 PM
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May Allaah's wrath be upon these filthy un-istinja making pigs, ameen
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Yesterday, 07:09 PM
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guys - it is a fake pic. it goes along with a joke article about christmas in iraaq.

c'mon, no one has heard of the onion?
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Yesterday, 07:27 PM
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You must be kidding. That picutre is a very, very bad fake. This pitcure is a perfect example that you cannot bleive everything on the Internet.
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Yesterday, 08:13 PM
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May Allaah's wrath be upon these filthy un-istinja making pigs, ameen


Ameen! those idiot kaffirs make me sick
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Today, 01:11 AM
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Gosh get a grip! It's just a joke! It's not real!
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Today, 02:22 AM
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Yeah. Its a joke.

But theyre still kaffir idiots who should get the hell out of Iraq, they need to be tought a lesson. They shouldnt be joking like that even.
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Today, 02:36 AM
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guys - it is a fake pic. it goes along with a joke article about christmas in iraaq.

c'mon, no one has heard of the onion?
Gosh get a grip! It's just a joke! It's not real!
So what if its a joke? They are stinky kuffaar neverthless.

"May Allaah's wrath be upon these filthy un-istinja making pigs, ameen"

and again, ameen ya Rabb!
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يسر به واقض مآربه واجر به جسدي من النيران واح�ظ به وزري
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Today, 02:41 AM
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as-salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullathi wa barakatuh

are you saying that the kufaar are pigs or that the pigs are kufaar??

LOL@"un-istinja"

quality
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Today, 02:49 AM
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Wa`alaykum assalaam wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh,

Kuffaar are pigs, because they are dirty like them, Allaahu a`lam probably even more.
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يسر به واقض مآربه واجر به جسدي من النيران واح�ظ به وزري
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im amused at anyone who thought it was real though.....

come on, they got santa claus stuck in a chimney

anyway, who cares what they draw or say on stage - what matters is what's happening there, and that is something they are crying about

as usaama (ha) said, "the american soldiers are incredibly weak: fleeing the fight at night but during the day they speak about the new world order [i.e their power]".....
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Today, 03:06 AM
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Kuffar.
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Monday, December 22, 2003
 
sheikh bin laden


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is sheikh osama bin laden still alive ?
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Today, 01:14 AM
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Can someone who is releasing time-referenced tapes to the media every few weeks be dead?
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Today, 01:19 AM
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Of course he is alive. If he wasn't then his men would have told us so, through the media, in order that we pray for him.
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Today, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniper
Of course he is alive. If he wasn't then his men would have told us so, through the media, in order that we pray for him.

i know akhi.,..what i mean...can we trust them ?!? are they authentic ?? the kufar are masters in faking
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Today, 02:07 AM
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What I meant was ... OBL's men will confirm his death; that is when we will know for certainty that he has really passed away.
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Today, 02:16 AM
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As far as we know the Sheikh is still alive wal hamdulilah... now the thing i want to ask is what difference would it make anyway...

are shahadae dead or alive?

Presumed the Sheikh gained martyrdom i.e was killed by munafekeen or by american pigs... would you consider him alive or dead?!?

when ameer ul mujahideens in chechnya daguestan etc... KHATTAB gained martyrdom did it affect in any way shape or form Jihad in that region? and if so in what sens ... good or bad?

For most of the chechens KHATTAB is still alive... {many named their sons after him few used to even know that name...}

So when Sheikh Ussamah will die what difference will it make?!?!?
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Today, 04:38 AM
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The americans think he is still alive. al qaeda say he is still alive.
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Today, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Abu Hanzalah
As far as we know the Sheikh is still alive wal hamdulilah... now the thing i want to ask is what difference would it make anyway...

are shahadae dead or alive?

Presumed the Sheikh gained martyrdom i.e was killed by munafekeen or by american pigs... would you consider him alive or dead?!?

when ameer ul mujahideens in chechnya daguestan etc... KHATTAB gained martyrdom did it affect in any way shape or form Jihad in that region? and if so in what sens ... good or bad?

For most of the chechens KHATTAB is still alive... {many named their sons after him few used to even know that name...}




akhi...you are right...i agree with you....! but surely i would miss him.....the same with shaaheed khatab....

So when Sheikh Ussamah will die what difference will it make?!?!?
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Today, 04:46 AM
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last will of the shuhadaa of the haramain...


the last part is the best part i think..... they are speakin in english
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Today, 04:54 AM
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If you worship Usama bin Ladin, then know surely that he will die.

But if you worship God then know that He will never die and can raise up a mujahid leader who will be 10x more better and fierce against the kuffar than Usama could ever dream to be.
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Today, 05:05 AM
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i never knew anyone worhipped ussamah...
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Today, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah
If you worship Usama bin Ladin, then know surely that he will die.

But if you worship God then know that He will never die and can raise up a mujahid leader who will be 10x more better and fierce against the kuffar than Usama could ever dream to be.

akhi do you mean,,,,,,missing someone for the sake of god is shirk ?! i don^t worship usama bin ladin !!!!!
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Today, 05:33 AM
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I wasn't talking to anyone in particular.

It was a reminder that victory comes from God. Not from any individual.

Umar ibnul Khattab had Khalid bin Waleed removed from his post because people began to believe that Khalid would bring victory no matter what battle he fought. So Umar made the change to remind the people.

Many muslims today would be devastated if Usama was caught or killed.

And thats the problem.
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Sunday, December 21, 2003
 
What to do if you are approached by British Intelligence and Security Services...


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What to do if you are approached by British Intelligence and Security Services...
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In the name of Allaah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

Assalamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu

"What to do if you are approached by British Intelligence and Security Services or arrested under 'Anti-Terrorist', or any other legislation"

Taken From: http://www.stoppoliceterror.com/

Wallaahu 'Alam Was salamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu
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Yesterday, 11:37 PM
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What to do if you are approached by British Intelligence and Security Services...


Bussem up fi sabiliLlah.

Allahu Akbar

May Allah give me that pleasure one day, as long as my niyya is fully and 100 percent for His Sake and His Sake alone!!!!!!! AMEEEEEEEEEEEENNN!!!!!!!!!

Ya Rab rzuqna bi shuhada' fi Sabilik..ameen!!

Wa Alaikum Asalam
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In the name of Allaah, the Beneficent,the Merciful

Assalamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu

And from the examples of victory is that Allaah takes from his servants martyrs!, Allaah says: "[...] that Allaah may make evident those who believeand [may] take to Himself from among your martyrs [...]-"

For every servent works and does his best in worship to Allaah mainly to enter Jannah, and Jihaad is the shortest of all paths to Jannah, and Martyrdom is the greatest victory that a Mujaahid can gain. [ Extract from "Meanings of Victory and Loss in Jihaad" Written by Shaykh Yusuf Ibn Saalih and 'Ayeeri Rahimahullaah ta'aala, who was martyred by the Apostate Saudi Regime]

Wallaahu 'Alam Was salamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu
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Originally Posted by umar al-khattab
In the name of Allaah, the Beneficent,the Merciful

Assalamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu

And from the examples of victory is that Allaah takes from his servants martyrs!, Allaah says: "[...] that Allaah may make evident those who believeand [may] take to Himself from among your martyrs [...]-"

For every servent works and does his best in worship to Allaah mainly to enter Jannah, and Jihaad is the shortest of all paths to Jannah, and Martyrdom is the greatest victory that a Mujaahid can gain. [ Extract from "Meanings of Victory and Loss in Jihaad" Written by Shaykh Yusuf Ibn Saalih and 'Ayeeri Rahimahullaah ta'aala, who was martyred by the Apostate Saudi Regime]

Wallaahu 'Alam Was salamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu
BarakaLlahu feek...
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Today, 12:12 AM
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If they've contacted you face to face ... then they've been watching you for some time.
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Today, 01:21 AM
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In the name of Allaah, the Beneficent, the Merciful


Assalamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu

If you are thinking about taking them out of one misery to the misery of their eternal punishment, by all means, with tact, wisdom and good timing. Take the fight to them insha'allaah ta'aala

Wallaahu 'Alam Was salamu'alaykum Wa rahmatullaahi Wa barakahtahu
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